Patent Attorney and Founder
so as the title uh as the title in uh says we’re going to be inventing live inventing live so we’re take the first half of the show Matt and we’re gonna come up with something we’re gonna invent something on the fly on air um it’s a little bit awkward I I mean I don’t know where we’re going to end up um you’re a creative guy and so am I uh to help us I’m going to consult um a really cool article that I found on the old internet um and I’m going to put that up here and just so happens that uh our buddies over at bold patents put together a really cool article on the 10 steps of how to invent something how to invent something in 10 steps so we’re going to be using that as our guide I put the link there how to invent there’s 10 steps I laid it out there for for all of you back in 2020 and this article’s been picking up uh some decent traffic looking I’m pulling it up right now JD I’m a big 10-step program guy see I knew it and I know all of you are as well so follow along with us as we explore um for those of you who are you know you wouldn’t even call yourself an inventor yet I I I came to this realization just as here Matt I felt like you know I realized in my 10th year of doing this there are clients potential clients out there that we can help that have inventions but they don’t think of themselves as inventor right right they don’t think that they’re in the they don’t do that as a profession you know they’re they’re Realtors they’re janitors they’re truck drivers they’re police officers teachers professors right Engineers um and they’re just doing their thing and uh but they’ve come up with these interesting ideas and I want to let you all know all those uh people you are inventors okay and just whether now is the right opportunity where now is the right time to move forward or not so this 10-step guide will sort of get you there I’m I’m looking at the these 10 steps right now yeah I’m I’m loving it man I take it you’re going to go step by step here we’re gonna well let’s do this together okay and and you’re your your hip step lock what do you call lock hip hip lock step with me lock butcher that step one lock step lock step hip to hip lock step up on our face if we do that so step one believe in yourself okay this sounds so no this is the Ted lasso step man believe believe and you’ve got the mustache I mean my gosh IEP one well I I couple years ago I went as Ted lasso for Halloween so maybe I’ll have to do it again this year I don’t know you really got a good one it’s really starting to build in thank you I’m a ways out so um yeah this is it is true as a as someone who wants to get the creative juices flowing if you’re just if you’re in a funk if you’re just bothered upset have other things going on in your life that are dragging you down um you’re not going to be in that creative state it’s going to be very challenging to try to come up with this solution and so you’ve got to find a way even schedule time in your calendar perhaps block out some time so you know what for just 15 minutes I’m going to block everything out I’m going to be in flow and I’m going to try to think about solving this problem I’m going to let I’m going to believe in myself I’m G to have confidence I will carve this timeout even if it’s 10 minutes right on my commute I’m going to put all my brain power towards something and that’ll kind of give you that peace of mind your mind will get ready and you’re going to believe in yourself and say you know what I can handle it this is one step um and uh and just kind of get out of that maybe that rut that you’re in and um and just know that you’re you’re a capable person and you can get there so that’s step one mindset right just kind of getting prepared filling yourself up with you know positivity step number two pay attention attention so we’re going to pay attention right now to some of the problems in everyday life so let’s take a minute or two and ramble off you know maybe some problems you came up with that hit you over the head today Matt um do you have anything in mind I’m gonna kind of go through those as well wow just thrw me on yeah in the spot up with today um what are some problems that I noticed today I couldn’t find my nail clipper earlier I’ll just that’s because your children have it there was that I I it was so funny because my wife this is the tangent but um I was like we’re going through this thing now where we’re not solving each other’s problems right away so I’m like I can’t find the nail clipper she’s like oh that’s too bad I’m like ah ah and then T I can’t find the nail clipper she’s like you haven’t asked me where it is so anyway she played that game finally like hey babe do you know where the nail clipper is so that’s one problem um anything else for you we couldn’t find the morning it was really I’m just well rambling here yeah I’m trying to think
um I can’t think of anything top of my head JB that’s okay that’s okay this is it we have to be confident we live in a perfect world with no problems and this is really this is actually really cool we’re we’re going to we’re in this moment now of let’s have some silence let’s have some excruciating let’s just do a full actual 30 second silent
contemplation I got it that was two seconds that was not even a second got it I got I got a problem and I I could use some real help brainstorming some solutions well we have nine more steps to go please L on here’s my problem I have the this laundry pile and I wash it and I dry it and then somehow it has to get folded boom okay so this is I love this this is probably you know a 99% of people type problem now um my wife and I leaving for a wedding this weekend my mother-in-law just came into town last night she’s doing that she’s handling the laundry she’s amazing she’s a not everybody has the luxury of having a mother-in-law come in and just fold your laundry so let’s just let’s unpack that little bit okay it’s an everyday problem hey I can throw stuff in the laundry that’s not too bad I’m really good at it washing machine dryer okay easy this is so good okay so let’s go on to step three right this is an everyday type of a problem how do you get those clothes folded or or at least into drawers or or somehow you know out of the pile yeah how do we how do we avoid the pile in the masses that just ends up from beds I’m going to need some sort of machine okay so step three mapping it out let’s map it out um so this is kind of the general concept of well what’s the process and we’re we’ve been we kind of did that real quickly but this is part of the process that uh so the solution so now that we have identified the problem which is you know what I’m picturing is that mound of clothes that I constantly have to pick up and move to sit down my recliner um what’s a solution so I mother-in-law okay so we’re we’re coming with some solutions we have um you can it up and laundry service laundry service have you done anything like that before yeah so we used to have years ago we had like a laundry service that would pick up drop off fold everything right but then the problem was you know no one ever put their laundry away right so it’s folded but it was in a bag and then never got put away terrible problem and then we had a house helper Cassie if you recall yeah who uh she would do all the laundry and fold and put it away and that was a great solution okay but now I have no laundry service and we have no Cassie and so what’s a guy to do I guess he has to do his own laundry and okay well for me I am not picking like a shirt like this I will wear this once a week for this show right right now I basically wear t-shirts and shorts um all other times of the of the week so I have a drawer for shorts and t-shirts and they just go in I don’t even fold they go in yep underwear socks boom no fold straight in the socks though right you get the underwear the right side out you know and then you put the socks together so they match my wife does that she did that for said I don’t need a I don’t need them paired just absolutely shove them in inside out I don’t care um but that’s a level of comfort not everybody is good with and then workout clothes are the bottom J just mixed workout clothes but um but for the kids that has been the biggest issue kids clothes they’re small um and they go through them they go through them I don’t know about you my kids like they’re like you know Lady Gaga they have like wardrobe changes every day you know M oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and there and there’s you know we have two girls and a boy uh Hamilton’s five Emma’s seven Stella’s eight so they’re very close the girls especially I can’t tell part right so what my wife did recently she actually had a shelving unit put in right next to the washer dryer and a basket empty baskets and so instead of trying to fold clothes we just sort them first so we pull them out of the dryer and just sorting Hamilton’s Emma stalas Hamilton’s and then there’s May eyes so you guys you guys mix the laundry together so it’s we’re doing the laundry togethering see now we don’t co-mingle the laundry it’s my wife and then we have each girl has their own separate laundry bin so you actually do separate laundry loads okay wow holy smokes well we have Different Strokes I mean so there’s different levels of problems yeah so we got a dryer full of all five of our clothes nutty okay so you’re just your problem is maybe a little more simplified uh is Matt kth’s pile of clean laundry yep problem is not having enough time or an interest to uh fold it and get into the shores and on onto the hangers yeah that’s
it real real tough man I think I need a robot yeah that seems too easy but that is a that is a potential solution okay um one more potential would be old school um air dry okay so it comes out of the washer and it just goes onto a hanger into a closet that is constantly being buffeted with warm air I like it so let’s make you know what we can make my closet a washing machine okay okay now we’re this is it this actually could be could be somewhat interesting so so the closet becomes sort of like the sauna type environment where there’s wooden wall double as a SAA it of course double that was I’m getting there okay so the room has a nice drain at the bottom yep you it is a sauna and and instead of washing clothes it sterilizes and then dries so there’s no actual soap involved genius unless see unless they unless you’re outside really getting dirt but for the most part it’s just perspiration and it’s you know a little wrinkle so now you’ve got you’ve got complete uh you’ve got potential uh green invention here you’ve got a water savings electricity what what if I what if I just you know throw my dirty clothes in the shower and the shower washes them and then they go in your sauna yeah maybe maybe we need to process patent too I think oh I think there does have to be some water and soap involved let’s let’s say that’s true so but I’m stuck on the sauna so it’s the same box because I want it to be one room dedicated to this cleaning and drawing process yep um we would have to have some you know way of removing the clothes and converted that into an actual functioning sauna and then and then at certain times of the year you could be like a salmon smoker it’s like a you could have had some some salmon hang I like it I like I can you know dry my venison back there okay so we’ve mapped out our solution um evaluate value versus effort okay step four that is a huge Endeavor I
think okay no I’m picturing this closet it’s a sauna it’s the washing drying sauna closet okay and um I’m gonna block out the salmon image but well maybe you know what you know I’d be I’d be up for a a steam shower so maybe my steam shower can also double as oh good really really good really really good all right so we got we got a steam room SAA it’s a steam room SAA show we we’re getting we’re bundling a bit um that’s an incredible uh environment you know to to fully drain and make sure there’s not going to be mold right and so the construction I think is interesting let’s say ballpark 20 grand to prototype something like that you know 15 20 grand fully converted um I think it’s nothing necessarily unique about the Machinery um you know actually technical problem it’s just matter of bringing those things all together but there probably would be certainly some design you know some some integration issues where you got you know wet and electricity coming together um y so that that’s a decent amount of effort okay to prototype put that together and let’s look at the value the value you’re saving is what you know decreased you know no need for washer dryer yeah marital happiness pricess you’ve now got a clean couch you’ve got a sofa uh yeah you get your sofa back you get you know I get my kitchen island back you know yes yes and there’s the the decrease of the furrow right the fur the antier you know how much Botox costs right gosh okay so there is quite a bit of we were joking a little bit but there is some True Value there um so I I’m I’m thinking there’s there’s enough value that that certainly outweighs that initial outlay now market research this is step five again we’re going to be short on time to get through all this but I want to cruise through these that does need to be done we have to make sure that that you know is this a Matt cath problem or is this really kind of you know petto is 80% of people have this problem so we need to kind of do some you know some initial conversations with friends and family and then go beyond do some online research yeah we we gotta figure out you know like in other countries around the world you know they don’t they don’t wash their clothes as much as Americans do right this isn’t a problem much in Italy yes I would love to find out kind of a sub research project how many saunas are out there um that are unused okay and and and a conversion kit to the to the sauna uh washing dryer sanitizer may be an option so forit invention as well so market research is important so step six this is where we start getting serious okay if if that looks like a green light okay you’ve determined that there’s more value than there is effort that there is a demand and a big enough market to go after now is time to do a patent search okay and yes you should do your own before talking with an attorney so hop online and let’s do that now for just an instant I’m gonna type in I’m gonna share this this is silly we’re running out of time but I love it we may not get to our Bull bite today Matt and that’s okay that’s okay I feel like this is a a real real serious issue real serious problem we on the C with something can you see my screen I can I can this is this is a um yeah I had Legacy shave ready to go okay so this is uh sauna um washer dryer okay just going sauna washer dryer sauna laundry room ideas see on Pinterest okay oh I’m forgetting nak so there’s a shower attached to AA which is cool I mean this looks look let’s take a quick look oh man this is Uncharted Territory yeah I’m just looking at my images here I don’t see again every single one of these pictures I am seeing a washer and a dryer okay so that tells me that’s a good sign in general because they’re they’re sort of still using that old ancient technology of a washer dryer work talking Cutting Edge yep washing the room okay washing yep it’s G to have lasers too well I don’t know um
can uh can a room wash and
dry yeah just keep scrolling so so You’ want to do things like this you know while you’re not I think this is novel I think this is novel it appears to be novel okay again you’re gonna want to spend a little more than the two minutes we gave it all right I’m going to stop sharing but a room that will wash and dry and also convert also you know function and also fold it’s I mean it’s a well no so maybe you miss my my whole intention there is as you put clothes as you take clothes off dirty clothes off you put them on a hanger I love it and and then it’s done so you actually instead of putting them into a hamper right it gets rid of that hamper process you just you actually fold
[Music] them that’s not going to clean them in most cases it I mean hey I’m willing when I get undressed at night I’m willing to take my clothes and fold them nicely put them in something right and then put them away yeah if once they’re clean right so I’m I’m willing to do that okay so once we speak with the patent attorney about our invention that’s when we’ll sort of start laying out some of these details we’re getting to right now and and explaining it more you know instead of an idea actually talking about well how will you how will that hanger look and how will it withstand uh you know the Heat and the pressure and um you know the different environments the water and the soap how is that going to get dispensed and how are those going to you know basically you know situate in that environment um the details honestly so once we’ lay out the invention disclosure the search can be performed step seven only comes in when you’re ready to file a patent application after you’ve gotten the green light from your patent attorney saying yeah this is unique novel non obvious and has utility you now have a market you know the market size you know your invention is patentable now it’s time to file so step seven is to file at least a provisional in some cases a non-provisional but once you file a patent application it gives you that all important patent pending status yep um so once our you know SAA is patent pending that’s when we can start to speak about it talk about it to invest s um let’s and also kind of put a business plan together I know when I sit on and talk with inventors and and all honestly about when they get to this point I would say most have not really put in a business plan have not really thought about how they’re going to make money on this invention they just wanted to hurry up and get it locked in and secure um so let’s assume in this case we have filed okay we have filed in a pat application for a a sauna that will wash and dry and hand you know and and function as a closet washer dryer and as a sauna love it um so now you know part of a business plan what would you say is you speak with your clients on the trademark site mean we just think about branding and starting to think about you we’ve already done the research we’ve confirmed there’s a market for this um where does your mind go when you think branding for some right so I mean um you know before we we pitch the idea to anyone really we probably want to have a name for it right right includ our business plan for um venture capital or Angel Investors and things like that so we got to have a working name for this product yep so my recommendation is always to find something that’s suggestive of what the product is and does right but not be overly descriptive right so we can’t call it the sauna you know Clos dryer right you know we’re going to have to be a little bit more suggestive right something that uh kind of speaks to and somehow the automated process of cleaning clothes or the Dual functionality of this washing dryer SAA system steam room um yeah yeah so we got SAA do you want to just have a little yeah I usually ask clients to make a list of all the descriptors which are not registered by themselves okay so SAA you know steam room clean um clean clothesline hamper oh yeah you know you write all those kinds of names down anything that kind of comes to mind when you think about doing laundry yeah right um and then what I would do is probably start figuring out way to combine maybe multiple words and do a new word right so can we do um so can we play Clos line um or can we you know um something with laundry yeah right um yeah so we kind of plan plan the words combine them you know get out the Scrabble board start working on names that are probably unique meaning you coined them right um and but they kind of mean something if people hear them they kind of know that has to do with laundry or Electronics or automation or lasers or whatever right yeah another way to do it too is that you know you with just a suggestive trademark for something like this so um you when you think of like things that have to do with laundry right you could call you could call this thing clothes line cloth line terrible name for it but it’s not actually a cloth line but you know it has to do with washing clothes I like it okay clothes line um what about something like you know I like using the word you kind of get you know the sauna aspect of it um hot hot laundry or you know
yeah Hot Load hot hot wash no um clothes easy easy wa easy wash and dry oh boy yeah see like it this is where you know it can get kind of challenging and it mostly takes time to you know make the list and and try to think of something or you can ask your friendly neighborhood trademark attorney to run a search for you of previously registered trademarks for washing machines right and that can kind of help get the creative juices flowing okay that’s that’s something if I have clients who are really stuck trying to find a name for the product or service right I’ll just typically pull a search report of the you know maybe the latest 200 trademarks that registered in their category right and then they can see it and they can kind of you know get an idea of what’s registerable and what people are using out there in the marketplace okay um if you guys are out there watching and you have any suggestions throw them out I what about laundry box yeah laundry box laundry
box yeah I mean sure that could certainly it seems registerable to me um yeah or you know we could call it uh something Butler right you know app perol Butler or um yeah Ming catchier than that but uh yeah yeah what’s slaying for clothes right um Duds yeah Duds or you know sdbs you know something like s Duds sdbs
sub wow good good good good I have a headache today that’s why I’m not very creative SS and Duds no you’re great Suds and Duds perfect yeah it’s going to work with that so and then um but what what’s what’s important after you get your your application filed okay especially a provisional you have up to one year before the non-provisional is due this is the time to prototype test and build verify that the you know the saids and Duds is going to do what you said it’s going to do can you actually does it you know does it actually make sense to to put it all together right or or is the SAA aspect really going to be too much and the thing is really actually going to be more dedic dedicated to cleaning the laundry um and the SAA part was really just too far-fetched um and maybe you can cut out a lot of cost and not have to deal with you know removing the clothes to get enough ventilation and heat so now it’s a just a box that you’ll hang it turns a closet that also doubles as a washer dryer um so so as you start to build it out right you got get with an engineer maybe a a mechanical person if you’re not necessarily uh in that you know industry or or have that background you bring them into it and do so with an NDA have have a contract in place with any third parties that you really get into the weeds with and start doing what I just said right kind of narrowing in on what it is that’s truly going to go to market um because there could be some co-invention there there may be some trade secret information some processes that come up about how to actually make you know that environment be both one that cleanses and actually gets to a temperature that will dry the clothes so um uh so once you get the application file the non-provisional file that’s when the examination will happen there’s a lot the back and forth of the examiners at the patent office there could be a lot of office actions to overcome but you might get all the way to the finish line and get your patent granted um and end up in Shark Tank pitching the SS and Duds uh closet so thank you all for hanging in there with Matt and I we invented um and branded that so it truly that that may be something right there may actually be something there you know in just 30 minutes I think it’s a real problem I I don’t know most folks who who wouldn’t take some sort of machine that automatically did your laundry and folded it and hung out for you but uh I mean I I know in I know that there are machines that kind of do this but um yeah not not like us they don’t do functionality they don’t double the steam room you know SAA yeah that part I think is a little distant um but I mean I could say you know just seriously I I would dedicate my half is honestly my quarter of the closet to to being a Suds and Duds where my wife and I can have a traditional closet I’m GNA buy a SS and Duds bolt it in and that will do it all and um yeah I mean I like it man what what if you had like a hanger system like the suds and Duds and you oh yeah no hang it up right you put your socks on the mannequin dummy the pants underwear whatever right and you close the door yes you do it right and next time you open it they’re clean or they’re they just stay in the closet right you open up put the next door you set of close on here we go Yugoslav what about a net for socks and perfect see you don’t need need to go with heavy metals and just you know keep it light you know ergonomic um and and you won’t lose your socks yeah well end of our program here Yugoslav thank you for joining in I really appreciate your comment um we invented something on air if you guys missed it you want to go back check our Channel at bold patents on YouTube we are uh we here every Wednesday not always doing this live invention uh we’re usually doing interviews and doing a br bite uh we’ll save that one for next time um but for Matt myself and bold patents wish you guys a wonderful week ahead we’ll see you next week go big go bold